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Big Time Rush (Unreleased Infopost + Masterpost)


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For now I'm trying to separate the art from the artist kinda with him. There's a reason they agreed to not bring politics to work whenever they're together, and I think as long as they follow that formula, I'm kind of comfortable considering I know I've always looked up to Kendall and Logan more.

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I don't know if any of this information is relevant but I found this https://www.discogs.com/release/6031630-Big-Time-Rush-BTR that is the unofficial promo CD titled B.T.R. rather than BTR (name also seen on the original cover you have on the master post). I also found this review https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RP8HPWT3OHRVZ?ref=pf_vv_at_pdctrvw_srp that talks about Til I Forget About You on the very first released CD being a different master. That Amazon account has reviews on every single international version available, with information for them. I searched the username on Google to find more posts. That username also has some old blog posts, https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Talk:BTR_(album)

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6 hours ago, yasmeenbaiji said:

I don't know if any of this information is relevant but I found this https://www.discogs.com/release/6031630-Big-Time-Rush-BTR that is the unofficial promo CD titled B.T.R. rather than BTR (name also seen on the original cover you have on the master post). I also found this review https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RP8HPWT3OHRVZ?ref=pf_vv_at_pdctrvw_srp that talks about Til I Forget About You on the very first released CD being a different master. That Amazon account has reviews on every single international version available, with information for them. I searched the username on Google to find more posts. That username also has some old blog posts, https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Talk:BTR_(album)

Hi, welcome! AFAIK the promo is identical to the public master, audio-wise. It was meant for in-house use or whatever so I'm guessing whoever printed it didn't put much thought to the label, and/or used the abbreviation format interchangeably - though it's certainly possible the title was the latest revision!

For the TIFAY master, I have heard of this being true of the physical single CD (sold at Walmart in US when the song first came out), but it is sadly the only one I don't own :vacuum: Passed on it a while ago and haven't found it for a decent price since. The person who left that review is extremely reputable and I'm willing to bet it is slightly different (see Halfway There, Any Kind of Guy, other early songs) though I'm not sure how so.

Since you brought it up, though, lemme see what I can do... ;)

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14 hours ago, Kipper said:

Hi, welcome! AFAIK the promo is identical to the public master, audio-wise. It was meant for in-house use or whatever so I'm guessing whoever printed it didn't put much thought to the label, and/or used the abbreviation format interchangeably - though it's certainly possible the title was the latest revision!

For the TIFAY master, I have heard of this being true of the physical single CD (sold at Walmart in US when the song first came out), but it is sadly the only one I don't own :vacuum: Passed on it a while ago and haven't found it for a decent price since. The person who left that review is extremely reputable and I'm willing to bet it is slightly different (see Halfway There, Any Kind of Guy, other early songs) though I'm not sure how so.

Since you brought it up, though, lemme see what I can do... ;)

Audio absolutely would be the same (if final version). There is no importance to it at all but take another look at the “early artwork” you have posted from, coincidently, the back of the TIFAY CD. That version uses the abbreviated too!

Secondary, 4 of 5

And the Walmart promo sticker has it officially written abbreviated too! 

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As for the other version of TIFAY. It was put on US iTunes only on Sep 21 https://twitter.com/jamesmaslow/status/25145416283 at this removed iTunes link https://music.apple.com/us/album/392165606. Exactly a week before the Walmart physical copy (Sep 28). I assume this specific version matched what is on the physical single copy?

It is not available on US iTunes as a single anymore at all, but is internationally with a Jan 11 release date. I believe those match the final version though. 

 

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2 weeks and $70 later... :roll:

What do we think?
https://krakenfiles.com/view/TlPSBUet9O/file.html

Side-by-side there is definitely a difference... (top is single, bottom is album track)
TIFAY.jpg

I don't know much about audio but I think there's more range between the instruments. By ear I don't really notice anything though the little guitar solo after Logan's verse seems a little less drowned out (not sure if Placebo lol)...

Thanks again for bringing this up :D You're right about the iTunes single, most of the early ones that got re-included on BTR don't seem to be available anymore, so it's possible that version was the same as the CD. I know the 'Any Kind of Guy' opening is different between single and the UK album. Worth looking into for sure!!

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6 hours ago, Kipper said:

2 weeks and $70 later... :roll:

What do we think?
https://krakenfiles.com/view/TlPSBUet9O/file.html

Side-by-side there is definitely a difference... (top is single, bottom is album track)
TIFAY.jpg

I don't know much about audio but I think there's more range between the instruments. By ear I don't really notice anything though the little guitar solo after Logan's verse seems a little less drowned out (not sure if Placebo lol)...

Thanks again for bringing this up :D You're right about the iTunes single, most of the early ones that got re-included on BTR don't seem to be available anymore, so it's possible that version was the same as the CD. I know the 'Any Kind of Guy' opening is different between single and the UK album. Worth looking into for sure!!

Damn, the way I also bought the CD just to see if this was true and share it here 😭

You beat me to it by a day or two hahaha (it's still being delivered), but where did you buy yours from out of curiosity because $70 seems a bit o.0

Also, I agree with you and Ninjser, the effects seem to be more prominent and stick out more in this version, as well as the guitar track that you alluded to during Logan's part. In short, seems like a less noisier mix in which you can hear certain elements a bit more clearly and whatnot 😛

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17 hours ago, Kipper said:

2 weeks and $70 later... :roll:

What do we think?
https://krakenfiles.com/view/TlPSBUet9O/file.html

Side-by-side there is definitely a difference... (top is single, bottom is album track)
TIFAY.jpg

I don't know much about audio but I think there's more range between the instruments. By ear I don't really notice anything though the little guitar solo after Logan's verse seems a little less drowned out (not sure if Placebo lol)...

Thanks again for bringing this up :D You're right about the iTunes single, most of the early ones that got re-included on BTR don't seem to be available anymore, so it's possible that version was the same as the CD. I know the 'Any Kind of Guy' opening is different between single and the UK album. Worth looking into for sure!!

I can't believe these all have minor different mixes. I remember getting ahold of some BTR CDs back in the day, but I don't think I ever got this one. I'll have to take a look, they're in a storage somewhere...

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On 1/9/2024 at 12:49 AM, ronaldonater said:

Damn, the way I also bought the CD just to see if this was true and share it here 😭

You beat me to it by a day or two hahaha (it's still being delivered), but where did you buy yours from out of curiosity because $70 seems a bit o.0

Some eBay reseller, hats off to you honestly because yeah I paid a lot more than it's worth. :cypher:Nice score!

On 1/9/2024 at 4:03 PM, Micro-Com10 said:

Little Guitar in between the single and the album can be minor differences. But is the same reason as Elevate (as a both single and album version) or not?

Do you mean the title track single? I kind of hope not because that's gonna be even harder to track down :/ Promo-only in just the UK I believe, and not even for sale. Haven't heard of a difference before - is there one?

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Thank you so much for doing that, I'm super sorry that you spent that much just from me asking! The answer really does just seem to be that these first songs were just originally released with the mastering from the show as the promotional singles. Which does make sense in considering the front nickelodeon logo that did not make it to official albums that shows more of a marketing purposes effort. Thank you again! Aside from the audio itself, I am really interested in understanding the who and why the different versions came from. 

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