reflection

Is nobody else thinking I’m surprised these didn’t leak earlier.. I remember jojos scrapped album was leaking as the era was happening lol.. she’s had 9 years to put something together which to be fair it seems she had some sort of plan this year.. but then again that does extend to the past 9 years. Unless she really didn’t get enough rights back to release the album until these past few years then it would make sense why she kept delaying when she was expecting to get rights back sooner

Nothing is stopping her from dropping all her songs with the amount of royalties she has x2. She doesn’t even have to give us visuals CDs packaging. Just put the songs on streaming with a title and a pretty cover like Ashley Tisdale and feed your fans for once.

it owuld be grea tif she got her head out of drafts and into production wouldnt it we could get them all 2013 2015 2017 2019 2021

she said she would release SLAY mv in 2022 everything but you, dont get mad get famous and hot city eventually, there was also a album draft including epic era songs in mid 2020

this but lets pretend she still does and sticks to her plans for 2022 so i dont have to live with rough demos of varying qualities mixes and demos and can get these songs with packaging, cd, tracklist, masters, ons treaming as a actual proper era with visuals if this mass leak was really the nail in the coffin for us to ever get a final product from bonnie then i just feel like a sack of piss

is anyone else relieved that bonnie said she isnt scrapping the album because of the leaks, and is just waiting it out until theyre over to release? these rough demos cant hold a candle to final, finished masters. at this point all i want is a final mastered album from bonnie because at the ennd of the day everything the gays have here will leak in its multiple demo versions, but what isnt 100% is bonnies release of the album in its final mastered form, so i will be praying for that and those masters instead.

damn i didnt eve know that.. and karmin must be broker than bonnie mckee since they didnt have like what 5 plat singles. i feel like bonnie needs to face her fears and do it i assume its one of thsoe things wehre the more you sit on something the more you feel uncertain she needs to just shit it out and move onto new projects

Are we not forgetting she did literally four music videos and singles for a four song EP + without the headache of buying back the masters. The revenue must’ve been -$1000000. Her dreams ideas and plans are probably greater than her actions some of them must not be pheasable with her current budget

thank you so much bearsbummer for sharing!! its really appreciated

When I’m alone was always a fave I adore the drums and synth. I wonder if Bonnie ever recorded a demo or if Carly’s was enough for pitching

from my end tell her we love her and the demos that leaked just make us want the final masters and excited about these songs even more and we will take an album of her choosing anytime! also ask her about my favourite song i wanna fucking call you and if that will be on it if you can x

Now who said this albums been scrapped when she’s been fighting her old label buying these masters 1 by 1. Sleepwalker being released unofficially didn’t stop her from releasing officially it years later

thesea re amazing, thank you!!

can we imagine how ethereal these songs would be back to back completed in a professionally crafted album with visuals, mastering, a engaging rollout please

i know outlaw would hit so much harder with a final version, mixing mastering etc. great melody - adore it sonically, poor mixing, rough vocals, great production ideas, but as is underdeveloped and rough production. getting alot of these vibes and if anything i hope bonnie understands these leaks just make people want a final mastered proper version as they were intended to be heard even more.it feels like im wasting my first listens on the wrong versions of the songs lol so i feel like i have to hold out on this one too. also is there any confirmation on unlock your love being from epic era? i always assumed it was but i cannot find a source or date

Just ‘unreleased’

no but someone sent a bunch of song titles and they sorted them as so On 2020 Draft: S.L.A.Y. Forever 21 Outlaw Electric Heaven Somebodys Gonna Get Hurt Wild Card Rewind Your Heart Jenny's Got a Boyfriend Show Me Your Love Worst in Me Off 2020 Draft: I Wanna Fucking Call You Mirage Right Now Hit Man Everything but You Unlock Your Love Dont Get Mad Get Famous

Was it mentioned here that this album had a draft tracklist in mid 2020? These all still have a chance of coming out although apparently everything but you and I wanna call you were absent from it so I believe she still hasn’t secured all the rights to her epic sessions (they aren’t handing it over for free when they paid for all of them) some songs not on the draft Bonnie has replied to IG comments they’ll come out and also I forgot which song but she said MV next year for one of them. I believe the pandemic must’ve pushed back the album and she finally secured enough rights to release some of the songs and maybe is saving the rest for album number 3 or a deluxe or droplet release when she gets the rights to those too. Right now is probably completely off the table though for… obvious reasons

Thank you so much!! Love this song, it was made for Bonnie and she carries this so much better although I’ll merit Cheryl’s for the BPM change!

the i wanna call you demo is a lower key, pretty much all the vocal takes are different from the backtrack performed on yahoo and theres some syncing issues with the lead and background vocals. the production is switched too and the beat is completely different although some things like the guitar sound the same. also its missing the woo adlibs i want it now couldve been a working title since this seems to be a very early rough demo. this one sounds more of a dancey beat driven angle while the one performed on yahoo seems to have been reworked to be more of a summery pop song like american girl. a part of me prays she hits up the album masterer asks for a bounce and just drops the final album as it was intended to be heard the process cant take longer than well 8 years so we coul all shut up and move on but its bonnie mckee so we suffer i guess

group one looks finished to me now. any errors, missing songs or missing info please let me know by replying to this thread and ill add promtly!

hi everyone, huge overhaul and im retiring the solo artist infopost not the group one for now cause itll be too much work to keep it all updated, still so much to add to the group one but i thought id compile a list of some interesting career findings looking through this digitalspy thread in chronological order. very interesting to look back at information that was new 5 years ago with that retrospective. what i found very interesting is how theres more info on their scrapped sessions than the ones that were released, really goes to show how much there really is out there we havent heard😭 Better Together Scrapped debut album + single rollout - 10/09/13: Debut album is expected around December according to Vice President of Epic with a tour December/Early January. They want to give the girls a legit shot at a Top 3 debut with their album and just need a little more time. A new single will be released soon which will either be "Who Are You" or "Better Together". #4 Alleged scrapped song - 15/10/13: I wonder what happened to Warrior. I happened to see them live opening for Cher Lloyd and I thought that was their best moment. Pretty sure they said it was an original planned to be on the EP. #24 Fifth harmony in studio with Miley Cyrus's producers, Better together single scrapped - 23/12/13 It appears there's been a change of plans for the girls. Better Together (song) isn't going to be sent to radio it appears atm. The girls are going back into the studio to record new songs with new producers (Miley's producers have been confirmed). #114 Toby Gad sessions mentioned in December 2013 - Later found out to be the songs 'No Boys Allowed' and 'Better Days', written with Ali Tamposi. Fifth Harmony have had 22 finished songs by January 2014 - 12/01/14 One of the girls' parents said they have 22 songs fully finished and that a huge surprise is coming after their tour with Demi. #117 Better Together sound does not seem to have been scrapped just yet by January 2014 - More sessions with Better Together executive producer - 17/01/14: Julian Bunetta (Better Together Executive Producer) tweeted he is waiting on the girls to arrive back in LA to begin recording. #119 Reflection Appears Fifth Harmony's sound direction is shifting towards what would turn into 'Reflection' by February 2014, a more soulful r&b sound, hinted by sessions booked with The Rascals (Ariana Grande - Yours Truly) [eventually shelved] - 13/02/14: They're soon to hit the studio with The Rascals (Ariana Grande's Honeymoon Avenue). So I'm glad to see them finally heading in the correct direction. #133 Fifth Harmony working on the song Reflection in April 2014 Fifth Harmony perform new songs from Reflection in April 2014. All originals were released and maintained on the tracklist until February 2015 apart from 'Over' - 26/07/14: Setlist: 3. Reflection, 4. New song -Going Nowhere, 5. We Know, 6. New song- Over, 7. BO$$ #449 Fifth Harmony has more sessions with BO$$ crew in July 2014 [shelved] - 18/07/14: The girls are currently back in the studio with Jacob Kasher, Tayla Parx and Ricky Reed(Wallpaper) #402 According to Wikipedia, Reflection was recorded between March 2014 and August 2014 - Though Fifth Harmony still had many recording sessions in studio for the album after August 2014 up until December 2014, including many delays for the album eventually released February 2015, for some reason it appears all (known) sessions after August 2014 were scrapped. Fifth Harmony in studio again with Tommy and Victoria September 2014 (Note: this could be the song 'A Dream' which shares the same credits as We Know) [eventually shelved] - 19/09/14: They are back in the studio again with Tommy and Victoria who are responsible for We Know #577 Fifth Harmony in studio with J.R. Rotem and Eric Hudson October 2014 [eventually shelved] - 07/10/14: - The girls were in the studio with J.R Rotem and Eric Hudson #592 Lauren mentions 'No Way', 2 years before its release! - 9/12/14: Lauren mentioned in an interview that they recorded a song called ’No Way' and it's a mid-tempo that manages to showcase their vocals very well. #914 Fifth Harmony in studio with Diane Warren [shelved] -18/12/14: The girls were in the recording studio last night with Diane Warren. #983 7/27 DJ Flict reveals he is working with Fifth Harmony February 2015 With the first mention of new recording sessions in 6 months, it seems 7/27 started off looking a lot like Reflection [shelved]- 03/05/15: So the girls(Mainly Normani and Dinah) are with Taylor Parks and Harmony Samuels. Looks like they're already starting on 5H2! #2009 Harmony Samuels talks working with Fifth Harmony - 25/08/15: Are you also working with them on other material? Yes! I just started working with them last week for their new album. It’s really different. It’s really fresh. They’ve definitely grown. It’s a little bit more soulful, a little bit more quirky, definitely a little bit more Destiny’s Child-esque, you know what I’m saying? You’re going to hear more of their voices as individuals. Fifth Harmony in studio with Harmony Samuels and The Rascals again [shelved] - 01/10/15: The girls are back in studio and i'm very excited. last night they were working with Harmony Samuels and The Rascals who produced most of Ariana's Yours Truly album, which was a gem!! Harmony also produced IILWAM. #2783 Fifth Harmony in studio with Meghan Trainor and DJ Flict - 1/10/15: Disappointed that the girls are working with DJ flict and Meghan Trainor for 5h2. #2788 Ally Brooke talks in November 2015 about new sessions with Meghan Trainor, including a new song 'Tinderella'. In a Billboard article, Lauren talks aspects of their current sonical focus - 02/10/15: Lauren said they've recorded some dope songs with horns, however, as a group they have decide to also focus a bit more on some slow, soulful songs,(destiny's child vibe) and mature lyrics. #2803 In a turning point for the era, it is revealed Fifth Harmony are working with Max Martin! [shelved] - 02/10/15: The girls are working with Max Martin! #2794 Max Martin and his team allegedly take lead during this period of 7/27 - 02/10/15: According to Jason Lipshutz from Billboard, Max and his team are leading the charge on 5H2!!! #2796 Ally and Dinah spotted at Max Martin's house - 03/10/15: Looking through ally and dinah's snapchat, they were at Max's house. #2816 In October 2015, it is revealed Fifth Harmony were at a writing camp, working with producers Max Martin, Dr. Luke, Mitch Allan [shelved] Lukas Loules, and Jason Evigan [released] - They cut 4 to 5 songs a day. In October 2015, Fifth Harmony describes the sound of the album at this point of the sessions. In a Spin article published October 30th 2015, Dinah talks about Fifth Harmony's new music - She reveals sessions with Stargate and Max Martin. She lists personnell for the album in its current state, including Stargate, Jason Evigan [released], Victoria Monét, Tommy Brown and Mitch Allan [shelved]. She talks writing for the album first time. She reveals 6 songs with Max Martin recorded across multiple recording sessions. She says she could hear Nicki Minaj rapping on one of the 6 Max Martin songs. In November 2015, Justin Tranter talks writing and recording 'Fools Like Us' with Fifth Harmony, OZGO and Oscar Holter in a Spin article - I talked to Dinah Jane the other day and she said you were also back working on the group’s second record too. Is that right? Tranter: For sure. All those girls are so f**king fierce. It blows, because I did “Like Mariah” but I wasn’t in the studio when they cut it. So this song that we just did last week, I was actually there when they cut it and these voices. I mean, these girls are destroyers. Lauren Jauregui talks scrapped ballads from 7/27 - 03/03/16: Lauren told a fan that although ballads were recorded for 7/27, there will be no ballads on the final tracklist. #2969

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