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I think Matt Squire just typo'd 12 instead of 13. "Change for You" has a similar case: If taken as are, they don't match up with other info, namely Martin's demo of the latter with a mid-2012 stamp and a session tweet that correlates. Both are notably the first days of January -- anyone who has to handwrite dates knows the new-year struggle, haha. I'm willing to bet that's all it was. Ironically, James and Carlos did in fact have a writing session with Martin in January 2012, however I don't think it was for that song due to different credits.

Yeah, I did a deep dive on this one a couple years ago. That person just took the links and cut out the middleman. The MP3 filename says 92109mx, i.e. September 21, 2009 mix. Technically that's not (inherently) the session date, but Kendall is on it, and the final lineup only started work in August - not much room for error. July 2010 date is just when the file itself was uploaded and/or moved into its current folder. The season two songlist is dated 7-19-2010 so presumably it got moved during the construction of that. Worth noting, registration codes have always pointed to it being one of the first. I had it and "Young Love" as 2011 songs because of the Jedward ordeal and metadata of the latter - both of which we now know were earlier. Apologies for getting them wrong, I could never find much about either. By iTunes build do you mean the version release date? Definitely notable - only concern is it might not necessarily mean the person exporting is always up-to-date. Honestly I don't know how it worked back then, and consequently, how likely your average geezer producer would have been on top of it. Would probably come down to whether auto-update was the default. That all said, I'm still in agreement that song was probably among the first, which would place it around the mentioned date anyhow.

Thank you guys for compiling everything. I have access to the root files also and will work on updating the main thread over the coming days. Tons of info and a few extra writers' demos to point out as well. At least for the time being I've removed the link to the existing megapost - New files are especially "mountainous" and though of course not likely, I don't want any of us to get caught in the crossfire should the hats come a-knockin'. Frankly though, I've also just grown tired over the years of people dumping everything onto YouTube and taking the credit. At this point there are plenty of copies around so they can live on there. In the meantime I recommend starting with "Summergone"....

Seconded. The filenames are, at bare minimum, impeccably researched beyond just what I've put here, down to session dates and even how certain producers like to name their files. The utter bizarreness of an eBay listing strikes just the right chord of intuition in a way I can't really describe... 😭 Probably the wildest thing I've seen since starting this thread.

Big Time Rush - Boyfriend (Worktape) https://mega.nz/file/5B8DjZhB#pkJMp0aVqgNKpHqHlAhBMhyvatBXPzRrQgHFN5MZUyw OG file for the video linked above This should be the very first "mix" essentially post-session, ~end of May 2010

And just like that, friend showed me this: https://pillowcase.su/f/e79a5182a71966dff591c2880186ea1c from a recent leakthis thread, I assume the other 2 are pitches? I've heard they are working on album 5 so could be for that if so... otherwise maybe older Logan solo tracks? Have a hard time seeing them asking material for Another Life, unless these were just ideas brought to pandemic sessions? What a day...

100% agree!! It's just a demo obviously but it gives me way more "EDM track with guest vocals" vibes than anything we've heard before! In fact Carlos has a song kinda like it called "See Your Face" I think. Take me back indeed, to simpler times and when this song was accurate! https://apnews.com/article/world-population-8-billion-census-159f6eeac66bbc9800ad3ec4d9653b52#:~:text=The bureau estimates the global,pointed out in a statement. That's pretty funny to think about!

Song is real and not AI - fairly certain the reference vocals are Mitch Allan. This track is the info post, produced by The Suspex (Allan + Jason Evigan) and I believe Damon Sharpe also.

Always wanted to try this... by "AICC" on YouTube: Can't help but groove to this song and think the part distribution is pretty close to how the real one probably would be. Logan and Carlos didn't get to shine much in the earlier songs and this feels like one they'd dominate.

Keep it that way queen "they send text messages and phone calls before sending airstrikes!" *cuts to their house exploding* like you can't even write that

Was trying not to bring this here, but formally stating for those who follow about the new music, I will no longer be updating this thread for anything created post-Another Life. I'm sorry y'all, I tried to get past what this dude is doing but it just gets worse, and worse, and worse, to the point where I'm genuinely not even a fan anymore and have no desire. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5l80nTvp1d/?igsh=aHVqcGZobmd4NjYw Carlos and his wife have equally insulting political takes, but at least their sphere of influence was limited to the QAnon/fundie cult crowd who stay in their own little bubble away from civilization, and we never really heard about it. This is just unavoidable no matter how active a fan you are. For me the separation of "art vs artist" ceases to be possible when 95% of said "art" is paid propaganda for an authoritarian military, whose crimes are so heinous and well-documented that suggesting otherwise is nothing short of an affront to the mind. As a lifelong fan of James and this band it's beyond embarrassing to witness and I'm officially hopping off this trainwreck. ✌️ The new BTR music has rarely exceeded mid territory anyway so... not the greatest loss if I'm being honest. We'll always have the classic Dawgs, whom I will still report on whenever possible Sorry for the drama I just wanted to let people know for the future.

Hell yes!! In other news if you're reading this Bonnie I meet all your criteria

Added to Mega, very forlorn reference track for "Show Me" sung by Ginny Blackmore: https://mega.nz/file/QZ9G0SBJ#5qQPGQa-fMu5FWbjMKr1nSUmLcbuUQhV9YC4F9ALB1g All thanks for this one goes to a certain awesome somebody who has helped our thread before. They like to remain nameless, however you may recognize them from the iconic television episode "Big Time School of Rocque":

That's the one! I think they (BTR and Justin) met in late 2011 or so, when they opened for him in Mexico. Then I guess they had a mutual friend group that led to that.